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Origins of a Name There exists in England a place known as "The Parish of Windle", just to the east of Liverpool, in county Lancashire, England. This small enclave of land is adjacent to and in some areas, a part of the town of St. Helens, a city centered around the foundries of Pilkington Glass. The most commonly accepted account of the origin of the name "Windle" is: "Windle (Lancashire) was known as Windhull in 1201, meaning 'windy hill'", a rise of land buffeted by the winds blowing from the west off the North Irish Sea. Other common spellings in relation to this place are: Windhull (1201), Wyndhill (1320), Wyndhyll, Wyndill, Wyndell and Wyndle as late as the 16th century. (sources: The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place-Names by E. Ekwall (Oxford, 1960), and English Place Names by Kenneth Cameron (Methuen University Paperback UP325, 1961)) There has been a suggestion also that the name may be a reference to a weight or measure of corn. This is as documented as a measure of 3 bushels in one of the Earl of Derby's household accounts, 1561*, but I have not been able to learn its exact capacity. This term for a measure of corn is still in use in various parts of Lancashire, but the measure appears to have been variable. A windle of wheat was 210 to 220 lbs., or 3 bushels. At Preston oats were sold by the windle of 313 lbs * (The Stanley Papers, part 11, Chetham Society, vol. xxxi. pp. 1 and 2, 1853. The editor, the Rev. F. R. Raines, states that the "windle is an old Lancashire measure containing a mett, or two bushels." (Chetham Publication: OS 31 (old series) The Stanley Papers, pt. ii. The Derby household books; comprising an account of the household regulations and expenses of Edward and Henry, third and fourth Earls of Derby; together with a diary containing the names of the guests who visited the latter Earl at his houses in Lancashire, by William ffarington, esquire, the comptroller [1561-90] (ed. F.R. Raines, 1853).) My opinion is that the variant of "Windy Hill" is more
accurate. The
use of the name Windle is recorded in court proceedings as early as
approximately
1200, and there is no known reference to the use of the term "windle"
as
a measure amount until the reference by Lord Stanley in 1561, the name
Windle had been in use as a place name for over 300 years before
Stanley's
account. On this basis I feel that the Windy Hill explanation is more
accurate.
This area was once a part of Lancashire County, however with the rearrangement of counties in the 1980’s it became a part of Merseyside County. Surnames only began to come into use in England after the Norman conquest, and even then, for many years there were no rules and some families did not have fixed surnames until after 1500. Even the great Norman families did not have father to son surnames at the beginning. Thus Roger Montgomery Earl of Shrewsbury might have been succeeded by his eldest son Robert de Belesme, whose own son was William Talvas. Many families who later had different surnames sprang from the same paternal stock. An example is that of the powerful Lathom family of Lancashire, who descend in the male line from a Saxon or Norseman called Dunning. As the family spread, younger sons were given land in different manors The use of the name "Windle" as a surname came as a result of many events of olde. The year was 1201, a township existed which was called Windle. It stretched from east to west for over 4 miles and had a total area of 3,150 acres. The portion of it in the southeastern corner was called Hardshaw, 269 acres and here, around St. Helen’s chapel the modern town of this name has sprung up. North of the township is Windleshaw and to west are Cowley Hill and Denton’s Green. On the south a brook divides Windle from Eccleston and is joined by the Rainford Brook, which runs across Windle. The highest point is to the west of the Rainford Brook,
at 185 feet,
is at the northern boundary of St. Helens; but to the east a height of
over 260 feet is attained at Moss Bank.
For the most part the country is rather bare and undulating. Windle Hill from the north looks fairly steep, but from the south its height is completely dwarfed. As a rule, the hills of South Lancashire have their steepest incline to the west, but Windle Hill is an exception. The land is principally divided into cultivated fields,
where potatoes
and corn are grown. On the east the township possesses more timber
trees
than westward and there are more pastures. The eastern boundary line
runs
through Carr Mill Dam, a large sheet of water with strictly preserved
plantations
around it. In the extreme northwest there is a narrow band of moss land
where the surface soil consists of peat and clay.
The industries of the area are primarily collieries and chemical works. Glass foundries are the largest single industry with Pilkington Glass representing one the largest and oldest in the St. Helens area. The area around Windle was first recognized as a settlement in approximately 100 AD. There was a fort not far away at Newton on the Roman Road from Warrington to Wigan. In about 570 AD, an Anglican settlement at Billinge was started. Billinge means 'Place where family of BYLLA settled'. Circa 642 AD, the death of King Oswald of Northumbria in battle is recorded to have occurred at Winwick near Newton. In 1086 the Domesday Survey was done, first written record of most local areas. The land consisting of the "Township of Windle" began as "Manor Windle" and is first recorded in legal documents in approximately 1200. The Manor Windle was among those granted to Pain de Vilers, the first baron of Warrington and continued to form a part of this estate until its dispersal about 1585. The customary rating was two ploughlands and in 1346 it was held of the Earl of Lancaster by the service of the third part of a knights fee, £2 rent and the usual suit to county and wapentake courts. Essentially, what this means is, the land was granted by the king to men of distinction for their possession, in some cases simply as a grant, or later as with the earl of Lancaster, for a nominal "rent" and a requirement to "make appearances" as a guest of the king at certain courts – essentially power plays in exchange for the use of the land and it’s accompanying serfs. Pain de Vilers, the original grantee gave one ploughland in marriage with his daughter Emma to Vivian Gernet. King John, son of Henry II who reined from 1199 to 1216, made the grant. He took over the throne from his brother, Richard the Lionhearted, following the crusades. The Windle Manor inheritance seems to have been divided between daughters and granddaughters before 1212, when Alan the grandson of de Vilers was holding half of Windle; the other half being held by Robert de Vilers. Robert de Vilers perhaps resigned his rights at a later date, for in 1242 his lordship was in the hands of the Earl of Ferrers. About 1260, Robert de Ferrers granted his right in Windle to William le Boteler of Warrington, thus abolishing the mesne lordship formerly held by Vilers. Robert de Vilers appears to have left an heir of the same name whom some years later attempted to recover the lost rights, claiming suit from Peter de Burnhill and his wife Alice between 1274 and 1278. At any rate, the son of Pain de Vilers, named Alan de Windle, the father of the Alan who was tenant in 1212 died before Easter 1200 and is the first person to bear the name "Windle" as a surname. The son became known as Alan de Pemberton. Shortly after the death of the elder Alan (Alan de Windle the first, son of Pain de Vilers), his widow Edusa claimed from the son her power in many lands. They must have been a family of some influence as Edusa’s claim was for property in Skelmersdale, Syfrethley in Dalton, Pemberton and Windle. The younger Alan (Alan de Windle the second) sometimes was also called "Le Styward" and perhaps survived until about 1240, when he was succeeded by a son of the same name. Alan de Windle III, later called Sir Alan acted as a juror at various inquests from 1242 onwards. In 1252 William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby was pardoned for a false claim against Alan the third and the next year Alan de Windle and Thurstan de Holand joined in resisting an encroachment by the Earl. Alan de Windle III died between 1256 and 1274 ands was succeeded by his daughter, Avice who was the wife of the above named Peter de Burnhull (also known as Peter de Brindle) as the holders of Manor Windle. Avice was the daughter of Alan de Windle and the heir. In 1292, they (Avice & Peter) also became heirs to half of the estate of Rainhill (passed to Alan de Windle by Adam de Billinge). Their granddaughter Joan de Brindle married William Gerard and in 1335 to the Gerards of Kingsley. Several generations passed with the estate in the
possession of de Windle
heirs. The manor properties have descended regularly to the present
Lord
Gerard (Sir Thomas Gerard) of Brynn in Ashton.
At one time a dispute occurred in the early part of the reign of King Henry VIII (1509 – 1547). The Gerards wished to escape a dependence they had on a related family: the Warringtons. Sir Thomas Boteler however, succeeded in enforcing a claim for the annual castle-guard rent of 12d and a relief of 10 shillings. Publicly, in September of 1516, Sir Thomas Gerard did homage for the manor for the tenth part of a knight’s fee. In about 1547, the Gerards placed a portion of Windle Manor into that of a park, which became named as Windleshaw. There stands today a beautiful series of church buildings. In the 1970’s the Windle Manor house was owned by Sir Alastair and Lady Pilkington, the heir to the Pilkington Glass Foundry fortune. In 1972, Lady Pilkington stated: "Windle Hall has been in my husbands family for nearly 150 years, starting as a farm house and growing by changes and additions, to an unwieldy and very large house by beginning of the First War and standing empty for nearly ten years until my husband came there in 1930. At that time it was reduced to its present size and two of the main changes were the demolition of a large billiard room, which made room for the rose garden and the moving of the front door so that the main living rooms now face south and get sun…" She goes on to say how extensive renovations were completed, with extensive gardens developed. The house and gardens are open to the public now under the care of the National Garden Schemes with between 500 and a 1000 visitors a season. She also states "The number of roses has risen from some 800 to nearly 1,500". Windle Hall, the garden in particular, is now listed in the English Heritage Register, reference GD2001, as a private garden, c.2ha. Today Windle Hall is the place of residence of the Lady Mavis Pilkington Rose, a Hybrid, described as a tall upright grower well-clothed with mid-green glossy foliage. The large well-shaped blooms are of golden-yellow, shaded tangerine-pink. Slightly scented. Lady Mavis Pilkington Unfortunately, Lady Pilkington died in 2000. Members of the Pilkington family still live in the area however. And this is from where the name Windle as a surname in England originates. Windle Today - essentially a part of the city of St. Helens.
My first thought after researching and discovering the illustrious origins of the name Windle was that I, Dale Windle was wrought from the gentle origins of French nobility; a descendant of Pairs de Vilers, Alan de Windle, Robert de Vilers, Peter de Burnhull and Lord Gerard of Brynn in Ashton. Or that I was related to the famed "Le Styward". (Styward is described in Thomas Mores book "Utopia", published in 1516. A Styward’s only job was "…to see that nobody sits around doing nothing, but that everyone gets on with his job". Hmmmm – that’s my relative? On the other hand, it’s said that the word "steward" comes from the old English word, "styward," or "keeper of the pig sty." – that’s more like it.) Alas, to delve into family history, one must start in the present and work backwards. I started my Windle family history search and found doctors, millionaire business man, family turmoil, farmers, farmers, farmers, farmers and farmers, going back as far as the early 1700s. Logic would lead me to believe that I am most likely related to the serfs who work the Windle Manor property under the direction of "Le Styward", rather than being a direct descendant of the noblemen. This is not a bad thing however, hard workers, strong of
body and pure
of mind, that’s the relatives I must be related to…
GULES: Two Bars Argent: In chief three wolves heads couped of the 2nd Crest. A wolf’s head Argent transfixed through the breast with an arrow or flighted and point of the first motto: SIBI QUIUSQUE DAT (Everyone gives to himself). Meanings of Coat of Arms: Bars Argent: Silver or White, Peace and sincerity Wolf: Reward from perseverance in long sieges and/or hard industry Arrow: Readiness (for battle); if depicted with a cross,
represents
an affliction
The Ancient Past – Pre 1200As you have seen, the family
name originates from
the Manor Windle, near
The bloodlines of the
noblemen were different from
those of the serfs that worked the land.
As I surmise we are most likely to be related to the serfs, I’ll focus my research on those origins. The short and quick history of
“the people of the
land” of early
My Windle Family HistoryI say “my” as there are many
Windle family lines
in existence. I suppose, if one takes the original Pain de Vilers and
adds
the families of 5 to 10 serfs, all of whom would have adopted the “of
Windle”
surname, then there are many unique blood line origins of the Windle
family
name. In some way we might all be seen to be related. Even though by
true
bloodline we may not, certainly our origins in heritage are
I felt the best way to first
document, then preserve
“my” Windle Family heritage is to start at the beginning as I know it
and
work forwards to the present day, writing what is known about each
family.
1700 to the PresentI have been successful in
working back to approximately
1700 – the birth of John Windle, known as John Windle of
Clapham.
At some time there was likely a migration from the
original manor property
where the Windle surname originated. Our family ancestors ended up in
the
area of North York and settled there to farm. with one that we know of
leaving the farm: The family lived in Yorkshire from some
time prior
to 1700 up to the generation of 5-John Windle-[4], when after
his
marriage and the birth of several children at some time between 1865
and
1880 the family moved to the Preston, Lancashire area. Why is
unknown.
John Windle (this is the grandfather of Stanley Windle) Born At
this time, Westhouse was probably West House, a farm. I have the 1850
map
of the property and it does not appear to be more than a single farm
with
adjacent buildings. (map attached) Mother
was Ellen Atkinson. He
worked as a cordwainer (shoemaker), employing two workers. At this time
in history, this occupation had expanded to include making of leather
fittings
for horses, wagons and the like. In all likelihood this is what Mr.
Windle
was engaged as rather than the making of shoes and fine boots. John
married Catherine Pickover in 1833 in Thornton In Lonsdale. Catherine
was born in 1811 in Clapham, Attached is a printout of all
the records in the descendants
of John Windle of Clapham that I have on file to date:
Descendants of John Windle of Clapham(Born 1700, Clapham,
This furthest back I have
been able to get at this
point.
This is an export of data
from the software package:
Legacy Family Tree. It uses the following formatting:
1- Numbering of each generation John
Windle Of Clapham - [14] – Numbering of each
person (as entered
into the software program) General
notes and any information entered regarding birth, death, marriage,
etc.
If there is no information shown, then that means I did not have this
information
– if you have some, send it to me. [MRIN:7]
– Indicates a marriage record in the software program. 1-John
Windle of Clapham - [14]was
born in 1700 in Clapham, General
Notes: Known as "John Windle of Clapham" John
married (name unknown). They had one
child: James. 2-James
Windle-[13]was
born in 1740 in Clapham, James
married Isabel Bradley-[59]
[MRIN:11], on James
next married (name unknown). They had seven children: John, Margret,
Betty, William, Ann, Mary, and James. 3-John
Windle-[8]was
born on General
Notes: Was actually marries 3 times, the third marriage was to: Nancy
Dixon,
they had 3 children Jane (1813), James (a815) and Sarah (1819) Christened John
[8] married Jane Richardson-[21]
[MRIN:9], on John
[8] next married Ellen Atkinson-[9]
[MRIN:10], on 4-Ann
Windle-[20]. 4-Stephen
Windle-[22]. 4-Thomas
Windle-[24]. 4-John
Windle-[6]was
born on General
Notes: Born At
this time, Westhouse was probably West House, a farm. I have the 1850
map
of the property and it does not appear to be more than a single farm
with
adjacent buildings. Mother
was Ellen Atkinson. He
worked as a cordwainer (shoemaker), employing two workers. At this time
in history, this occupation had expanded to include making of leather
fittings
for horses, wagons and the like. In all likelihood this is what Mr.
Windle
was engaged as rather than the making of shoes and fine boots. I
have GED file for this event. John
married Catherine Pickover-[10]
[MRIN:7], in 1833 in Thornton In Lonsdale. Catherine was born in 1811
in Clapham, 5-Henry
Windle-[27]was
born on General
Notes: Long shot: Henry
Windle, born 5-Ellen
Windle-[28]was
born in 1840. 5-James
Windle-[29]was
born in 1842. 5-Mary
Windle-[30]was
born in 1844. 5-William
Windle-[31]was
born on William
married (name unknown). They had two
children: John Gilbert William and Cyril Henry James. 6-John
Gilbert William Windle-[62]was
born in 1878 in Wennington, Lancaster and died on 6-Cyril
Henry James Windle-[63]was
born in 1892 and died on Noted
events in his life were: Occupation
? 5-Thomas
Windle-[32]was
born in 1848. 5-Stephen
Windle-[33]was
born in 1851. 5-Albert
Windle-[35]was
born in 1854. John
next married (name unknown). They had one child: John. 5-John
Windle-[4]was
born on General
Notes: Occupation farmer at Tower
Farm, Houghton, Children
Alfred Henry (1859)..William James (1865) Charlotte Annie
(1872) Occupation
Farmer at Married
at Died
at This
means he moved from Noted
events in his life were: Occupation? John
married Sarah Ridding-[25]
[MRIN:5], in 1857.Sarah
Ridding-[25]
died in Tanterton Hall Farm, Cottam. They had six children: Alfred,
Catherine,
John Thomas, William James, Sarah Ellen, and Charlotte Annie. 6-Alfred
Windle-[26]was
born in 1858. Alfred
married Deborah-[36]
[MRIN:15]. 6-Catherine
Windle-[37]was
born in 1860, was christened on General
Notes: Died as a result of a Road accident in June, 1928. Catherine
married William Metcalfe-[38]
[MRIN:17], on 6-John
Thomas Windle-[39]was
born in 1862. 6-William
James Windle-[40]was
born on General
Notes: They lived at Houghton, near William
married Margaret Harrison-[41]
[MRIN:18], in 1895.Margaret
was
born in 1867. They had one child: Thomas. 7-Thomas
Windle-[58]was
born on Thomas
married Annie Crankshaw-[57]
[MRIN:23].They had one child:
Everard
James. 8-Everard
James Windle-[60]was
born on Everard
married Doreen Webster-[61]
[MRIN:24], in 1957. 6-Sarah
Ellen Windle-[42]was
born in 1867. 6-Charlotte
Annie Windle-[43]was
born in 1871. John
next married Ann Ellen Jackson-[5]
[MRIN:6], in 1880.Ann was born
on 6-Clara
Windle-[46]. 6-Jessie
Windle-[47]. 6-Stanley
Windle-[3]was
born on General
Notes: Residence of Ellen Windle is listed as: Tanterton Hall Farm,
Cottam, Stanley
Windle was employed at E. Dewhurst, Mount Street Works, 7-Howard
Windle-[48]. 7-Melva
Windle-[49]. 7-Stanley
Windle-[1]was
born on 8-Brian
Howard Windle-[50]was
born on Brian
married Victoria Cline-[51]
[MRIN:20]. 8-Stanley 9-Jamison
Windle-[12]was
born on 9-Morgan
Windle-[45]was
born on 8-Kenna
Mae Windle-[52]was
born on Kenna
married Alfred Sailer-[53]
[MRIN:21]. 8-Susan
Jean Windle-[54]was
born on1959. Susan
married Craig Wronko-[55]
[MRIN:22]. 3-Margret
Windle-[15]was
born in 1765. 3-Betty
Windle-[16]was
born in 1769 and died in 1780, at age 11. General
Notes: Killed by a horse cart. 3-William
Windle-[17]was
born in 1771 and died in 1787, at age 16. 3-Ann
Windle-[18]was
born in 1774 and died in 1781, at age 7. 3-Mary
Windle-[19]was
born in 1776. 3-James
Windle-[11]was
born in 1779. MapsThe three main places in 1 – Windle Manor, the origin of the use of the name Windle as a surname 2 – The start of the family tree in it’s current state, 1700 with the birth of John Windle of Clapham 3 – In about
1850, John Windle, the father of the first Stanley with who came to
Canada
moved from the Clapham / Thornton In Lonsdale area to the Blackburn and
Preston area in Lancashire.
Current Day England with the 3 previously noted locations shown (above). Close up of the Clapham and Thornton In Lonsdale area today (above with large scale view below). Westhouse is the birthplace of John Windle, the father of Stanley Windle (below). West House, in 1850, was just that a house and farm to the west of Thornton In Lonsdale. Note St.
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